for the record there was no "mill" (as burrito stated) sent my way or we would have a hell of alot more servers then we do and the admins would NOT need to donate anymore.

here is the actual server costs we pay a month for the 2 dedicated boxes that N/U runs to host both the website and all the gameservers (minus the cal vent and cal cod4 server)

game server:

20080728 Network Attached Storage: 20 GB NAS $5.00 $0.33 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $5.00 $0.33 $0.00 $0.00

sio4.sio4.net:
20080728 Server: Quad Processor Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$659.00 $43.49 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Second Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Third Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz (Tigerton)
- 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Fourth Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Ram: 8 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Disk Controller: SA-SCSI Disk Controller $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 First Hard Drive: 73GB SA-SCSI 10K RPM $30.00 $1.98 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Remote Management: Reboot / KVM over IP $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Uplink Port Speeds: 100 Mbps Public & Private Networks $10.00 $0.66 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Public Network Port: 100 Mbps public uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Private Network Port: 100 Mbps private uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Public Bandwidth: 2000 GB Bandwidth $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Monitoring: Host Ping $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Notification: Email and Ticket $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Response: Automated Notification $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Operating System: Windows Server 2003 Standard R2 SP2
(64 bit)
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Primary IP Addresses: 1 IP Address $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Secondary IP Addresses: 4 IP Addresses $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Lockbox: 1 GB Lockbox $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Intrusion Detection & Protection: Network IDS/IPS Protection $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Vulnerability Assessments & Management: Nessus
Vulnerability Assessment & Reporting
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $699.00 $46.13 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 One Time Charge: Bandwidth Overage ($0.10/GB)
sio4.sio4.net - 2000GB Allocated - 2068.21GB Used -
68.21GB Over
$6.82 $0.45 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $6.82 $0.45 $0.00 $0.00
Totals $710.82 $46.91 $0.00 $0.00
Amount Due $757.73
20080728 RECURRING_PAYMENT_CREDIT Credit Card ending in: xxxx ($-757.73)
20080728 RECURRING $757.73

webserver:
n00b.n00bunlimited.net:
20080729 Server: Single Processor Quad Core Xeon 5310 - 1.60GHz
(Clovertown) - 1 x 8MB cache
$199.00 $13.13 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Ram: 4 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Disk Controller: SATA Disk Controller $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 First Hard Drive: 250GB SATA II $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Second Hard Drive: 250GB SATA II $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Remote Management: Reboot / KVM over IP $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Uplink Port Speeds: 100 Mbps Public & Private Networks $10.00 $0.66 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Public Network Port: 100 Mbps public uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Private Network Port: 100 Mbps private uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Public Bandwidth: 2000 GB Bandwidth $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Monitoring: Host Ping $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Notification: Email and Ticket $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Response: Automated Notification $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Operating System: Red Hat Enterprise Linux - 5 (32 bit) $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Control Panel Software: cPanel/WHM with Fantastico and
RVskin
$25.00 $1.65 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Primary IP Addresses: 1 IP Address $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Secondary IP Addresses: 4 IP Addresses $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Lockbox: 1 GB Lockbox $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Intrusion Detection & Protection: Network IDS/IPS Protection $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Vulnerability Assessments & Management: Nessus
Vulnerability Assessment & Reporting
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $234.00 $15.44 $0.00 $0.00
Totals $234.00 $15.44 $0.00 $0.00
Amount Due $249.44
20080729 RECURRING $249.44

now with that totaled up we are at $1006.00 a month... right? (i see the need so we have quality servers not some 40 dollor hosted game server on a box that is overloaded with too many game servers dropping the quality of game play)

now the other $400 goes on (not that we break the payment for the main servers but im going to toss this out there)

supporting the cal teams vent, thier cod4 server, hlstats, advanced placment/advertising on http://www.game-monitor.com/ , and anything else we can think of to make the servers more enjoyable for you guys.

i sure as shit dont mind spending the time i do working on the servers(or used to now that nat has taken up some of the slack for me) but to sit hear and listen to people telling me they are leaving becuase i "stole" from ma_duece made me feel that i had lost something along the way..... but i didnt lose anything. all i did was try to make N/U better for you guys.

btw just gonna post a few conversation peices so you know what type of guy he really is...

[22:23] maduecejax: I was just banned in office extended for talking dude I am pissed
[22:23] maduecejax: some noob admin
[22:23] maduecejax: I need your help
[22:30] maduecejax: <Incoming call from maduecejax. Click the voice button to answer>
[22:30] maduecejax: <You missed a call from maduecejax>
[22:31] maduecejax: I will send you $100 right now to chew his ass out
[22:31] maduecejax: and I mean rip him or her a new one
[22:41] maduecejax: <Incoming call from maduecejax. Click the voice button to answer>
[22:41] maduecejax: <You missed a call from maduecejax>
[22:54] maduecejax: Thanks man I will pay you that $100 I promised. If I dont pay you can bann me yourself> LOL
[22:54] siosios: LOL
[22:55] maduecejax: Thanx man I will login and pay tomorow long week and just want to screw off and play some office
[22:55] maduecejax: what will it cost to bann here
[22:55] siosios: dont mind sera she is a good admin and is following the rules
[22:55] maduecejax: her
[22:55] siosios: lol
[22:55] siosios: banher
[22:56] siosios: ?
[22:56] maduecejax: lol
[22:56] maduecejax: everything has a price
[22:56] siosios: HAHA
[22:56] siosios: i dont have prices... im too stuck on my own beliefs to be bought
[22:56] maduecejax: nice
[22:57] maduecejax: I will still donate that $100

i never even chewed sera's ass for that i just explained that pasties gave him more slack then others....

[12:35] maduecejax: Hey man I did not want to lose my admin privildges, and it wasnt a money issue at all. It was timing I got real and I mean real busy for a period of time.
[12:35] maduecejax: I just did not have the time.
[12:36] maduecejax: In all reality money is NOT an Issue at all.
[12:36] siosios: pasties does all the admin stuff seeing as im always working or working on the servers
[12:36] siosios: i didnt even know he set you as afk
[12:37] maduecejax: He kept harassing me for money as soon as I started playing again
[12:38] maduecejax: the second I get on he asked me for money and didnt even say hello. I was like WTF man I just got back on here after being gone for 2 mos and the first thing he asked me for was money
[12:38] maduecejax: That pissed me off
[12:38] maduecejax: I was like WTF
[12:38] maduecejax: Fine you get nothing then
[12:38] maduecejax: Money is not an issue for me at all
[12:38] maduecejax: I have made over 100G this year from my comp
[12:39] siosios: he was rpobably concerned we wernt going to make the bills for the servers and was not being socialble
[12:39] maduecejax: and I have only owned my own company for the past 9 mos.
[12:39] siosios: for that im sorry
[12:40] maduecejax: If he had concern thats all he had to say I would help you guys out anytime. Idont want to see this server go away
[12:40] maduecejax: Well how much does it take If I become part owner
[12:41] siosios: well like ive told the other admin.... money is not why we do this but making the bills so we can keep what we have is a monthly worry and i think it stresses pasties out ALOT
[12:41] maduecejax: yeah but this is pennys to the right backers
[12:41] siosios: you would have to discuss that with pasties on the owner ship part

again trying to buy his way into ownership of N/U to which the answer from pasties was no.....

[18:51] maduecejax: Ok then I am going to request that the $500.00 I sent you for advertisement be either sent back to me. Or as we had initially agreed on based on that contract I will pay you an additional $500.00 and you advertise
[19:22] siosios: well ill tell you this... your adverts will never be on the game servers or the website but you will get your money back and thats that. you will recieve your 500 via paypal in 3 weeks time and not a day sooner. and that will take care of that contract once and for all
[19:26] maduecejax: I am telling yo dont make me get dirty on this Sios. Come on Kiss and make up.
[19:26] maduecejax: That is exacttly what the contract said
[19:28] siosios: nope have requested your money back and that IS what i am going to do ...you said that i am a man of my word and that is what i am by doing as asked to return your money for an incomplete transaction that happened months ago.
[19:28] maduecejax: thats not the contract
[19:29] maduecejax: If you choose to give money back that is your choice but I have the contract, and that is not what it says
[19:29] maduecejax: I am going to take the contract

so lets sum it up.... i offered the money back and he refused... now he tells people i stole from him.... and even before this last discussion he told us that the money could be conidered a donation as the first company was not going to take off. (some of the above has time spaces becuase of things that can not be mentioned in public becuase i signed an non-disclosure agreement concerning details of the agreement and what not.


so this is all up to you regulars and new players and even NA to decide on.

just a side note its not that i dont like ma_duece i just dont stand for someone trying to bully N/U and its players becuase of me and my needs to make this place better for you guys. i dont make a dime off working on this place but i do enjoy seeing all of you have fun on what ive (meaning the servers and back end) worked so hard on to create.

enjoy our servers becuase they are there for you guys... not me!

thanks
siosios

PS: if people are wondering why ottobohn from n00bsalad is making donations every month is becuase he trusts me enough to host his entire gaming website on the N/U webserver..... just another way to help pay the bills and keep good friends on a stable platform!