removing dot from servers/website

**Jackd** · 12-05-2010

So basically this thread has gone exactly where I knew it was going to go.

We are not closing this because cus everyone has a right to post their opinion or at least show the world how stupid you can be.

So if you are just going to post dumb shit like Pushiner just did, don't waste your time it is just going to get deleted.

**NoogyMan** · 12-05-2010

Jackd your my hero!! I'm a little enebreated tonight, my classes got delayed to only 25 min classes tomorrow, so I'm having some fun!

**No Sympathy** · 12-05-2010

I don't get what everyone doesn't understand? Obviously he would not be getting banned if he hadn't done something wrong. NU has had people leave and make their own community very, very peacefully. (Sera & Scribe) and others not so decently (ma deuce and his crew)

Miguel, you are not making this easy for anyone, including yourself. You made you, dot, your whole community look like idiots by raging. Of course stories are going to be changed etc etc. But whats the point of being vulgar? I personally don't see this as a big deal, Dot may not even have needed to be banned. Pasties & g0ds chose to ban him, that's that.

Why does every conversation on forums turn into some internet this internet that bs? You are speaking to other REAL people. It doesn't get more REAL than that. Age shows by what you are saying to others, doesn't matter if you are 14 or 35

**siosios** · 12-05-2010

i must say this was awfully interesting reading... all the vulger accusations, all the buddy buddies, and then actual common sense interlaced within seems to just enlighten me as to how dots last community went -> down

just my thoughts on this.

sio

PS: if i could take 30 mins off work and other things i have going on in my life right now i could probably revamp all our servers to be utterly lag free and also rebuild ZM to its prior status with out even breaking a sweat but why waste my time on a server full of ungreatful kids when i have regs that i personally would swim across the ocean to help sitting in the other servers (office being one of them). office is lag free for now as a patch job till i can make more time to evaluate what specific changes need to be done. i am the one and only person that can do what i do with our servers that are not rented from game hosting providers, ours are built from scratch and run from console with bash scripts and knowledge of how the game servers operate. anywho tell dots hosting providers good show for making his servers lag free as i know he doesnt have the knowledge to run a dedicated box.

**Kaley Fan** · 12-05-2010

Originally Posted by siosios

i must say this was awfully interesting reading... all the vulger accusations, all the buddy buddies, and then actual common sense interlaced within seems to just enlighten me as to how dots last community went -> down

just my thoughts on this.

sio

PS: if i could take 30 mins off work and other things i have going on in my life right now i could probably revamp all our servers to be utterly lag free and also rebuild ZM to its prior status with out even breaking a sweat but why waste my time on a server full of ungreatful kids when i have regs that i personally would swim across the ocean to help sitting in the other servers (office being one of them). office is lag free for now as a patch job till i can make more time to evaluate what specific changes need to be done. i am the one and only person that can do what i do with our servers that are not rented from game hosting providers, ours are built from scratch and run from console with bash scripts and knowledge of how the game servers operate. anywho tell dots hosting providers good show for making his servers lag free as i know he doesnt have the knowledge to run a dedicated box.

Sio I just wanted to say, that I appreciate everything you've done for N/U. I've been staying out of this convo for a long time, but come on guys. Grow up. Were not a bunch of high school girls, we can at least discuss something without two people getting removed forcefully from the server. Just really stupid shit guys.

**siosios** · 12-05-2010

dot broke the rules and miguel came to bash so the ban is what it is for both of them. people can blame me or any of the other owners for what has happened over the last month or so but ultimately it falls on the players and the regs. ive made it very clear over the months that this community cant live with out donations on top of what the owners and jr-owners and admin put in, but yet when push comes to shove instead of helping the community with skill, money, being friendly to noobs that join the servers the ones that complained the most about our non-profit place of play are the ones that dont do shit to help out.

im tired and im going to bed

night night
sio

**onehit** · 12-06-2010

Ok, here's my end of the story. Yes Dot did try and recruit people through STEAM, and n\u admins, i was sent a game invite from him for almost 2 weeks straight after he started his community, and at the time I WAS AN ADMIN on n\u. BUT, as part of our n\u rules, it dosen't say anywhere about how some1 invites somebody in steam chat. I remember always hearing that if you wanted to recruit somebody keep it out of the servers and take it into steam chat. But purposely take away the remaning members of THIS community?? Just as noogy said, when you have done wrong, you get punished, take Sajora for example, he was a jr owner(just like dot) he put in donations(just like dot). Just cause some1 has helped the community in the past makes them right to take away our regular players? I THINK NOT. I will not lie, I was once a jr owner for dot back at n00bInvasion, but quickly went back to n\u a mear month or two later after his servers crashed and burned. Miguel, you of all people as a (FORMER ADMIN TO N\U) should know this is not the way you act in a forum. you are acting like a childish kid to defend your owner.miguel i would go into great detail on how you let this community down but you and dot being removed is satisfaction enough. even though we know and have proof of yo'll yes i said YO'LL doing wrong, there is no need to try and defend your selfs here as you have been caught. take it as a departure notice, you have served your community well in times of need but now it is time to say goodbye forever like sajora. And nadia, i know your just trying to stick up for your older brother, but plz look at this evidence, you know who is right and who is wrong here, no need to drag this on any further.

and miguel, tib is a DEDICATED player to this community, been here just as long as I have, if you have a problem with the term "DEDICATED PLAYER" then go read a book for gods sake, you make yourself sound like a complete idiot. I am one of these "DEDICATED" players just as well as you x-storm and dot are dedicated so forcefully on having your own community over and over again. I have a home at n\u and i am here to stay, and if it so happenes that this community dies then so be it, it will be my LAST home on counterstrike. when we were laggy in the servers i didnt even wanna play the damn game, yes, i went to other servers while i waited for it to be fixed, but none were as fun and exciting as the n\u servers. we are all friends here and have fun at what we do, no other community or place could replace that for me. now as thats said, goodnight.

ps: Dot idk if u can read this, but by doing what you did, that resulted in us having to reduce our servers to what they are now. you took away donations that were beeing brought in each month to keep this community running, took away admins that paid there dues each month, pretty much killed us and hurt us even more than we were already down. im not saying that you DID violate the rules, but I am saying that because of YOU, THIS COMMUNITY is at where it is at now.

-onehit

**X-Storm** · 12-06-2010

Originally Posted by onehit

Ok, here's my end of the story. Yes Dot did try and recruit people through STEAM, and n\u admins, i was sent a game invite from him for almost 2 weeks straight after he started his community, and at the time I WAS AN ADMIN on n\u. BUT, as part of our n\u rules, it dosen't say anywhere about how some1 invites somebody in steam chat. I remember always hearing that if you wanted to recruit somebody keep it out of the servers and take it into steam chat. But purposely take away the remaning members of THIS community?? Just as noogy said, when you have done wrong, you get punished, take Sajora for example, he was a jr owner(just like dot) he put in donations(just like dot). Just cause some1 has helped the community in the past makes them right to take away our regular players? I THINK NOT. I will not lie, I was once a jr owner for dot back at n00bInvasion, but quickly went back to n\u a mear month or two later after his servers crashed and burned. Miguel, you of all people as a (FORMER ADMIN TO N\U) should know this is not the way you act in a forum. you are acting like a childish kid to defend your owner.miguel i would go into great detail on how you let this community down but you and dot being removed is satisfaction enough. even though we know and have proof of yo'll yes i said YO'LL doing wrong, there is no need to try and defend your selfs here as you have been caught. take it as a departure notice, you have served your community well in times of need but now it is time to say goodbye forever like sajora. And nadia, i know your just trying to stick up for your older brother, but plz look at this evidence, you know who is right and who is wrong here, no need to drag this on any further.

and miguel, tib is a DEDICATED player to this community, been here just as long as I have, if you have a problem with the term "DEDICATED PLAYER" then go read a book for gods sake, you make yourself sound like a complete idiot. I am one of these "DEDICATED" players just as well as you x-storm and dot are dedicated so forcefully on having your own community over and over again. I have a home at n\u and i am here to stay, and if it so happenes that this community dies then so be it, it will be my LAST home on counterstrike. when we were laggy in the servers i didnt even wanna play the damn game, yes, i went to other servers while i waited for it to be fixed, but none were as fun and exciting as the n\u servers. we are all friends here and have fun at what we do, no other community or place could replace that for me. now as thats said, goodnight.

ps: Dot idk if u can read this, but by doing what you did, that resulted in us having to reduce our servers to what they are now. you took away donations that were beeing brought in each month to keep this community running, took away admins that paid there dues each month, pretty much killed us and hurt us even more than we were already down. im not saying that you DID violate the rules, but I am saying that because of YOU, THIS COMMUNITY is at where it is at now.

-onehit

I am quite annoyed to find my name mentioned in this as I haven't replied at all in this thread. You mention my name as if I am someone whom just change to a new community over and over again. This is offensive towards me.

I changed server because of 3 reasons:
Many of my friends left.
I was a ZM reg and I do understand that Ender worked hard on it, but it was non-playable for me because of lag, but without a zm server I had no reason to stay.
Because of discussions like this appearing on the community more often than earlier also pushed me away from here.

Saying that I am "Dedicated" to leave every community and never have a "home" and that I am not loyal is highly offensive towards me and I would rather see the g0ds of this community making their own members (Some of them, not all!) speak more respectful rather than just us the supposed "outsiders" having to do it all the time.

This is what I had to say. I joined 28roundslater to help make a zm place for those who lost theirs here.

Also Dot may have invited people to play his server. But he never forced them to join. They took that decision themselves. So you cannot put all the blame on him.

I am not trying to put fuel to this discussion, but I believe i had my right to reply to Onehits accusations.
/X-Storm

**onehit** · 12-06-2010

Ok storm, before i reply to what you just said we are not on here to TROLL on eachother.

your name was mentioned because you,miguel and dot were the ones who started nI and I know that you guys started 28rl. Everything I stated in my post was nothing but the TRUTH. and you know it is.

and whats with these "accusations"???

I said i am a dedicated player to this community as well as tib BECAUSE Miguel was replying with stupid remarks, and when i mention your names, meant to you guys are dedicated to wanting your own community, which you know is the truth and isn't a lie. so u saying that I accusing you of something that is wrong is totally wrong. nothing that I posted was false, but only the truth, if you cannot handle the truth then get out of the kitchen. This thread was meant to let the truth out of the bag and not to TROLL on others. So as you know that you guys started nI and as you just posted "This is what I had to say. I joined 28roundslater to help make a zm place for those who lost theirs here." shows that you started 28rl as well, so where in my post AT ALL shows where you are accused? nothing but the truth.

its a shame when i mention the truth of people, they just spit back with remarks that they were accused. just shows that some ppl can't handle the truth and pisses me off when they point it in a totally different direction as the one word meaning was meant. Had nothing to do with you not having a "home" nothing to do with you moving from communities over and over again just SPECIFICALLY that you guys are dedicated to having your own community. which was tried more than once, and this time has succeeded. so take it as you wish storm, you know that this is true, and so does everybody else.

**X-Storm** · 12-06-2010

Originally Posted by onehit

Ok storm, before i reply to what you just said we are not on here to TROLL on eachother.

your name was mentioned because you,miguel and dot were the ones who started nI and I know that you guys started 28rl. Everything I stated in my post was nothing but the TRUTH. and you know it is.

and whats with these "accusations"???

I said i am a dedicated player to this community as well as tib BECAUSE Miguel was replying with stupid remarks, and when i mention your names, meant to you guys are dedicated to wanting your own community, which you know is the truth and isn't a lie. so u saying that I accusing you of something that is wrong is totally wrong. nothing that I posted was false, but only the truth, if you cannot handle the truth then get out of the kitchen. This thread was meant to let the truth out of the bag and not to TROLL on others. So as you know that you guys started nI and as you just posted "This is what I had to say. I joined 28roundslater to help make a zm place for those who lost theirs here." shows that you started 28rl as well, so where in my post AT ALL shows where you are accused? nothing but the truth.

its a shame when i mention the truth of people, they just spit back with remarks that they were accused. just shows that some ppl can't handle the truth and pisses me off when they point it in a totally different direction as the one word meaning was meant. Had nothing to do with you not having a "home" nothing to do with you moving from communities over and over again just SPECIFICALLY that you guys are dedicated to having your own community. which was tried more than once, and this time has succeeded. so take it as you wish storm, you know that this is true, and so does everybody else.

I am not Trolling. I am just stating the TRUTH as you would have put it. And as far as I remember you also joined nI. So you aren't exactly completely "dedicated" but yes. We are not here to accuse each other and I have no right to come on here and apparently "troll".

But I never joined other communities just because I apparently enjoy switching community. I Did it to play my fav css mod. But if that is not allowed then my bad.

"just shows that some ppl can't handle the truth and pisses me off"

And I would rather not have you inviting me to Office if that is the case like you did 2 days ago.
I will leave this as it is.