banned

[Sajora]

im using msn longer than i play css. and im still not banned.
and the reason why it bans ppl so many ppl on zm is that there are a lot of aimbotter and speedhacker.

[SmurfSniper]

msn wouldnt have shit to do with it.... but I still wouldnt completely rule out a possible flaw.... I mean it is possible ... but dont personally know thats the issue

[DoT]

I still believe its a flaw, i honestly don't see breaker as the type of person to try and hack on our servers or hack in general. It's actually kind of sad to see how quickly you guys kill of another admin knowing that they are dropping like flies. I would have expected to you guys to look into it more than saying, oh good luck and good goodbye.

:/

[Sajora]

he got banned by kac for cheating. and now an admin got banned by it u guys start calling nats plugin a flaw? thats a bit weird. i wonder how many ppl we will have to unban then.

btw. didnt nat say that just breaker and jr owners and owners should post on here?

[SmurfSniper]

This was my anti-cheat, not Kigen's.

according to nat it was her plugin.... and Im still jr owner

[Sajora]

not talking to you. i know u are

[SniperKiller]

according to nat it was her plugin....

It may be her plugin but her anticheat system is 100% or steam and KAC would alrdy have it in its systems

And her anticheat hasnt been checked by steam themselves to see if its flaw proof

And im an admin

[AwpsandKnives]

Wow you people are pretty pissy about this whole thing... Anyways no peice of software is 100%, I'd rather trust someone I know over a peice of software. Its nothing against Nat in this case it just happens. If Vac was a 100% we wouldn't need other anti cheats, and we've had problems with Kac before as well, and that is a much more in depth peice of software. I am not saying anything, I'm just asking questions. If you can't take critisim you should go hide under a fucking rock, and people stick up for their friends. Frankly I find it pethetic that you all threw breaker out no questions asked. Are we a comunnity or just a bunch of people out to play css, becuase that is what I have seen over the last couple of months. I can understand why we have anti cheats, I can understand why we trust them. But why the hell would we trust them over an admin we know, without fucking at least asking one fucking question, is beyond me.

[SmurfSniper]

ty soopa

[Natalya]

I dont know u breaker but i was doing research on the ban website

While i was looking at I noticed that there is entire page of KAC bans by the use of natalya anticheat system

Also i also noticed it was only banning people on the zombie Mod server

Also it mostly bans foreigners

I THINK UR ANTICHEAT IS FLAW OR INCOMPLETE

I will address these points:

1: There's pages and pages of KAC bans by the KAC plugin as well... What's your point? If anything, the fact that it has had so many bans and that no one has ever complained until now, that should support upholding the ban.

2: NsAC is only in use on Zombie Mod. It used to be on Dust 2 as well but that was only for a week or so. (It conflicted with KAC.) KAC can not be used on ZM because it bans by Steam ID only. Kigen is against no-steam servers so he won't support an anti-cheat that can be used on them, which is why we have NsAC. Though, admittedly, I could modify his anti-cheat to ban by IP.

3: The people it is banning tend to be people who didn't actually buy the game, who tend to be foreigners.

It may be her plugin but her anticheat system is 100% or steam and KAC would alrdy have it in its systems

And her anticheat hasnt been checked by steam themselves to see if its flaw proof

And im an admin

Steam doesn't look at 3rd-party anti-cheat programs such as KAC or Detox or whatever. They haven't done that and never will do that.

Also, the method mine uses to detect hacks is pretty-much identical to KAC's. It's just a CVAR checker.

[Sajora]

well what do you want us to ask him? did u hack? or what
theres a reason why he got banned by it. and like a lot of ppl said before me you cant just fuck up by typing shit in console.

[Natalya]

Wow you people are pretty pissy about this whole thing... Anyways no peice of software is 100%, I'd rather trust someone I know over a peice of software. Its nothing against Nat in this case it just happens. If Vac was a 100% we wouldn't need other anti cheats, and we've had problems with Kac before as well, and that is a much more in depth peice of software. I am not saying anything, I'm just asking questions. If you can't take critisim you should go hide under a fucking rock, and people stick up for their friends. Frankly I find it pethetic that you all threw breaker out no questions asked. Are we a comunnity or just a bunch of people out to play css, because that is what I have seen over the last couple of months. I can understand why we have anti cheats, I can understand why we trust them. But why the hell would we trust them over an admin we know, without fucking at least asking one fucking question, is beyond me.

Awps, I've been asking myself this. I'd love it if there was something wrong and he did indeed get banned by accident. But I've double-checked the coding and I've looked at all the information associated with the ban and I haven't found anything to indicate that his ban was a false positive. The only strange thing in Breaker's case is that it seems that instead of changing sv_cheats to 1, the hack he had somehow set sv_cheats to not have a value -- 1, 0, or otherwise. I don't know wtf kind of hack needs to do that but I don't write hacks so I'm not the person to ask on that one. But his sv_cheats was not set to 0 like every single non-hacking player and because of that he got banned.

Anyway, I spent over a week on this plugin testing it and whatnot and I NEVER got a false positive before I uploaded it. NsAC is a heavily modified version of the VBAC anti-cheat with extra protection built in to make sure that it doesn't give false positives even when server admins change server variables around, so I really don't know wtf could have happened that it would ban him if he wasn't hacking.



Now, again, the only people who should be posting here are Jr. Owners, me, Owners, and Breaker, so everyone else plz gtfo unless you have some piece of information that applies to this. If you are a skilled coder and you really want to look over the coding of my NsAC plugin send me a PM and I'll be happy to send it to you to review it, but I can't just post it in public.

[AwpsandKnives]

well as yah can see in the title i got banned... i got banned for cheating when i tried to get in the server:/ i played on the zombie mod server before i got banned like 1 hour before that and nothing happend... after dinner i try o get in and i get in 1 time but then my counterstrike crashes so i start it back up and i try to get in the server again and now i got banned...

Any 1 who can help me?

Could the crash and the resetting of cvars on reluanch cuase this?

[Natalya]

No. I've crashed many times and rejoined the server without problems. When you join a server it forces your computer to accept its values, so like if the server has sv_cheats 0 it tells your computer to get sv_cheats 0. If your computer has a 3rd-party program override this command then my plugin or KAC or VBAC (depending on which server you're in) will pick it up and ban you.

[Rey]

Now, again, the only people who should be posting here are Jr. Owners, me, Owners, and Breaker, so everyone else plz gtfo unless you have some piece of information that applies to this. If you are a skilled coder and you really want to look over the coding of my NsAC plugin send me a PM and I'll be happy to send it to you to review it, but I can't just post it in public.[/color]

Why cant fellow admins back him up? Im 99% positive he does NOT hack or ever will. If he cant read the admin only section, make him be able to and move this to that section. GL Breaker!

-Rey