FOR ALL TO READ, REGS ADMIN OWNERS PPL WHO DONT PLAY!!!

**Zaku-x109** · 07-31-2008, 01:26 PM

All I'm saying...

==EDIT==
Wait I just need to say a lil more.
I donno y ppl forget that there's risks when dealing with $$$ online. And then want it bak after they lose it or after they give it away. It doesn't work that way, even in a court, the judge wuld say "then why did u give it to him?" and "mistrial" or something around those lines.
I'm not taking sides with anyone on this matter, just adding my few cents and facts.
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**ORGANDONOR** · 07-31-2008, 01:51 PM

Re: FOR ALL TO READ, REGS ADMIN OWNERS PPL WHO DONT PLAY!!!

all i got 2 say about this is that there was a lot of shit goin on i dont no the hole thing but its bs & i think its funny that ppl came up 2 me & said stuff about the money thing. and really dont cair at all bc i give my money 4 admin not only bc i wanted admin also bc i played there 4 5yrs & i love every1 in there there like my fam. so if u mess with them u mess with me.

**donkey** · 07-31-2008, 02:06 PM

well I have read everything and it is well understood.i do understand wut is going on with everything by this post and as well being contacted by burrito him self some time ago. he did infact try to recruit in so many word and by trying to elplain to me that N/U is going underground and we r not going to have server anymore every soon. i took it litely. as I explained to burrito there is nothing going to remove me from N/U no matter wut. I do in fact have faith in both sios and pastiez and i do see both of them as really intelligent people that will not let dumb fucks like burrito and other lame shit come onto the servers and try to shut us down. N/U has been up for far too long for some regs and one person to come into the server and recruit.

Few thing for those who let greed and money get in the way.

1) burrito: you are fucken stupid and i think if you did care some what about the N/U community you would have stayed and learn to use your admin the right way and understand that junior owner does not put you above the rules. one month and u could not do that, it shows you were not cut out for that position.

2)NA owner: i think our a dumb ass that thinks you can match up to wut i have seen as the best server on the internet (N/U). Learn how to recruit for your self. you paying people to come onto other servers to recruit for you is really shittie. who says those people wont turn there backs on you? get smart!

3)back stabbers: as for those who left and decided to brake the rules. I really want to know wut made u do that? was it a rumor/story not told completly? was it the money? wut would make u turn around and do stupid shit like that. from where i stand u all r fucken stupid and u got wut u deserved!

from where i stand all my time on N/U wut i have seen is the admins/owners/junior owner/ and who ever else, plays a part in makeing all the N/U servers as grate as they are and they do look to improving constantly.

I myself want to thank pastiez and sios and all other who made N/U servers as fun as they are now. pastiez thanks for bringing this to everyones attents. now those who read ur post will understand wut happend.

+WordDonkey#

**POW** · 07-31-2008, 02:19 PM

Pasties,

TYVM for finally filling some of us in on what has been going on with Burrito and Deuce. I have heard many different stories from other players and I am so happy to finally hear the story from someone who was apart of the situation (even though it was not any of business).

a couple of quick questions

1. Are we still supposed to ban nA Admins?
2. Are we supposed ban players with the nA tag?

**royalewitcheese** · 07-31-2008, 02:23 PM

All i know is that this is insanity lol. GLad I give my 1 dollar a month to NU. NU ftw!!!!. Pasties and sio got everything in check. Keep up the good work and make good use of my double cheeseburger money w00t.

**pasties** · 07-31-2008, 02:25 PM

Yes, ban all NA admins
no do not ban people with NA tags unless they are recruiting in our servers. siosios and myself banned many many people from our office unlimited server. I hope most of them know why, some were very innocent and some were not. I am in the next couple of days going to unbanning those who were banned unjustly, for those of you that were banned this way, I sincerely apologize for having to do it, but if you love NU than you can certainly understand why i did so.

If you feel that you were banned unjustly and i have overlooked you, please feel free to msg me (xfire - pasties)

**Jackbauer** · 07-31-2008, 02:28 PM

Well since i started playing css the first server i played on was reg office now 5 years later look where n/u is now one of the most popular and sucsessful gaming communitys. Thay started out small and built on in creating a great gaming environment they made it with all the regs in mind all the things that are done to the nu serevrs are done in the best intrest of the regs and thats a fact. NA on the other hand think that they can put a community together in 2-3 months wrong it dose not matter how many servers you have in a community it is the ammount of people that enjoy playing in the servers with out the regs its pointless, NA have what 8 servers now and yet when i have been looking at activity graphs for there servers they are dead around 75% on the time and the max amount of people they have gotten on average in one of there servers is only 14 people, most of there servers are not even used, they think just because thay have alot of servers with all kinds of maps and mods that they will instantly populate them selves then there wrong without the community spirit which n/u has they will NEVER amount to anything bigger when they carnt even get there servers populated they need to offer people admin to encourage them to play there. When i first went in there server all i saw was an admin and x-reg abusing his admin to get what he wanted by slaying people for not going along with what he wanted them to do. The regs how left n/u to play in NA made the mistake of listening to burrito a childish imature person who could bearly run a server let alone a community thinking he could trick people into beliving that n/u had gotten a new server and then burrito getting people to spam the server ip not only in office unlimited but also on the n00b unlimited website. This just shows how pathetic burrito realy is, Ma_deuce is no better telling people that n/u stole form him now if ime right when you say that someone can have something or you give someone something then later on down the line and ask for it back that is not stealing when he gaive the money to both pasties and sio for the community as a donation, so why say they stole form him when he was the one how gaive them the money in the first place.

I belive this sould be enough said.

**Shad** · 07-31-2008, 02:34 PM

I am behind you 100% in this pastiez. Although I do not play on n/u as much as I used to I still do have the utmost respect for you and the admins, so please keep doing all you can to keep the n/u servers free from harm. I do not know why people would go behind your back like that and recruit your members but it is disheartening to know that people I knew and trusted have fallen away from being apart of this community. In the end though I realize it is their choice (obviously) but some people in the end.. just need to grow up.

-sHaD <3

**roflmywaffle** · 07-31-2008, 02:39 PM

someone should link this to the NA forums so all their regs and admins can read the truth about the whole matter

**CMAC** · 07-31-2008, 02:44 PM

hopefully we will bring traffic back to our office_unlimited server once i release this map which I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, k thanks.
if only there was some way NA could not get a hold of it, or it woudlnt work on their server or sumthin..

**easytarget** · 07-31-2008, 03:32 PM

Pasties wanted me to say something, but he really covered it. You are our players and regulars. You play where you want, but historically you have stuck with us for a reason. We do not have bad blood with other communities (friends with TnB and n00bsalad), we do not try to screw people over. These two people tried to screw with us and now they are paying for it. They are digging deep and using tactics that are quite frankly, not very honest. Lying is not a good color and the NA owners are wearing it proudly. I feel sorry for their members because they did not know pasties and sios side of the matter and got duped into burrito/deuces lies but I agreed with pasties and sios decision not even to open it up to the public. They did not want to make anyone look bad but now, we are showing to you guys, we have nothing to hide. Go ahead and soak in when pasties just wrote. Both sio and pasties have been our owners for so long, I trust them over some "marine" and a kid who wears woman's clothes.

I just want to comment on burrito because basically every admin did not even like him when he was with NU. I am sorry I did not tell you up front that I did not like you one bit. You are retarded. I think it was because you were in our NU admin circle that I bit my tongue. I did not even notice you took me off steam/xfire until I noticed I was not getting the usual 20 messages of begging to get admin back. But really, all those times you told me and wolfeh, you still suck your thumb and you are like 20 or something, I always thought there was something wrong with you. I think its fitting you are running empty servers. Have fun.

~Easy

**Kirk** · 07-31-2008, 03:38 PM

hahaha nice easy. I still sleep with a stuffed bunny rabbit

is there something wrong with me?

**HellscreamsRage** · 07-31-2008, 03:52 PM

I've played CS for years and years, been to uncountable servers, been in a few clans that ran their own servers. I've seen how servers run well and how they are run poorly. Now I've never been involved in a large community until I ventured into the Zombie server one fateful day.

Steveo and Tara were the first ones I met and they showed me how a good server was supposed to run, forget about Office, S&D, Dust2, I only knew about the zombie server. I didn't even know really there was an N/U before Steveo started hinting of adminship opportunity for me and asked me to join the website/forum.

No one has ever, (the Ownership included), tried to lay false trails before me. Except in these rare occasions where a disenfranchised party wasn't happy and broke away and tried to grab people from us. Pasties and Sios are always upfront with how N/U is doing, how admins are doing and how the community as a whole is doing. if they ever had a problem with me or any situation I have known about, they confront it, explore all options (or if its a dispute: all sides of the matter) try to judge the best way to go about things and set a course to make everyone happy (sometimes even at the expense of themselves).

Some of the newer admins may look from afar and see Pasties and Sios as all powerful entities who give out orders and don't take anything from no one (Hell, Sios scared the crap out of me at one point, he was the man in the red rusty van asking if I wanted candy and I am a man who likes his candy).

These guys are great people who put up with a lot of grief to make our freetime FUNTIME. Sios especially with the running of the servers 24/7. I've left out Tara for the most part because I haven't seen her lately

and that makes me sad because she is the one that got me stoked for N/U and made playing on these servers fun.

Needless to say is that if pasties or sios were liars or crooks, they wouldn't have built a base of Jr Owners, Admins and regular pubs that have fun working and playing together. A great community isn't based on lies and deceit, it needs cooperation from the bottom all the way up to the top and vice versa.

So listen to burrito all you want, but the proof is in the performance and in the players. And we got both!

Want more proof? This is why I love this community: We've had jr owners, and admins (including myself) disappear, or leave, or come on hard times, and all Pasties, Sios, Tara, and others of the ownership say is: Don't worry about it, we got ya covered!

Don't worry about it...They welcome everyone and help people who need it. These are people many of these admins including myself have never met in person but are willing to go out on the limb for you when you're in need. I mean come on people, unless you're a complete fuck up, they have your back (and sometimes when you're a complete fuck up, you're hilarious so they will have your back even more)

**siosios** · 07-31-2008, 04:21 PM

for the record there was no "mill" (as burrito stated) sent my way or we would have a hell of alot more servers then we do and the admins would NOT need to donate anymore.

here is the actual server costs we pay a month for the 2 dedicated boxes that N/U runs to host both the website and all the gameservers (minus the cal vent and cal cod4 server)

game server:

20080728 Network Attached Storage: 20 GB NAS $5.00 $0.33 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $5.00 $0.33 $0.00 $0.00

sio4.sio4.net:
20080728 Server: Quad Processor Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$659.00 $43.49 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Second Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Third Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz (Tigerton)
- 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Fourth Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Ram: 8 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Disk Controller: SA-SCSI Disk Controller $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 First Hard Drive: 73GB SA-SCSI 10K RPM $30.00 $1.98 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Remote Management: Reboot / KVM over IP $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Uplink Port Speeds: 100 Mbps Public & Private Networks $10.00 $0.66 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Public Network Port: 100 Mbps public uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Private Network Port: 100 Mbps private uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Public Bandwidth: 2000 GB Bandwidth $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Monitoring: Host Ping $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Notification: Email and Ticket $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Response: Automated Notification $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Operating System: Windows Server 2003 Standard R2 SP2
(64 bit)
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Primary IP Addresses: 1 IP Address $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Secondary IP Addresses: 4 IP Addresses $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Lockbox: 1 GB Lockbox $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Intrusion Detection & Protection: Network IDS/IPS Protection $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Vulnerability Assessments & Management: Nessus
Vulnerability Assessment & Reporting
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $699.00 $46.13 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 One Time Charge: Bandwidth Overage ($0.10/GB)
sio4.sio4.net - 2000GB Allocated - 2068.21GB Used -
68.21GB Over
$6.82 $0.45 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $6.82 $0.45 $0.00 $0.00
Totals $710.82 $46.91 $0.00 $0.00
Amount Due $757.73
20080728 RECURRING_PAYMENT_CREDIT Credit Card ending in: xxxx ($-757.73)
20080728 RECURRING $757.73

webserver:
n00b.n00bunlimited.net:
20080729 Server: Single Processor Quad Core Xeon 5310 - 1.60GHz
(Clovertown) - 1 x 8MB cache
$199.00 $13.13 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Ram: 4 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Disk Controller: SATA Disk Controller $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 First Hard Drive: 250GB SATA II $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Second Hard Drive: 250GB SATA II $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Remote Management: Reboot / KVM over IP $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Uplink Port Speeds: 100 Mbps Public & Private Networks $10.00 $0.66 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Public Network Port: 100 Mbps public uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Private Network Port: 100 Mbps private uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Public Bandwidth: 2000 GB Bandwidth $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Monitoring: Host Ping $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Notification: Email and Ticket $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Response: Automated Notification $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Operating System: Red Hat Enterprise Linux - 5 (32 bit) $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Control Panel Software: cPanel/WHM with Fantastico and
RVskin
$25.00 $1.65 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Primary IP Addresses: 1 IP Address $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Secondary IP Addresses: 4 IP Addresses $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Lockbox: 1 GB Lockbox $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Intrusion Detection & Protection: Network IDS/IPS Protection $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Vulnerability Assessments & Management: Nessus
Vulnerability Assessment & Reporting
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $234.00 $15.44 $0.00 $0.00
Totals $234.00 $15.44 $0.00 $0.00
Amount Due $249.44
20080729 RECURRING $249.44

now with that totaled up we are at $1006.00 a month... right? (i see the need so we have quality servers not some 40 dollor hosted game server on a box that is overloaded with too many game servers dropping the quality of game play)

now the other $400 goes on (not that we break the payment for the main servers but im going to toss this out there)

supporting the cal teams vent, thier cod4 server, hlstats, advanced placment/advertising on http://www.game-monitor.com/ , and anything else we can think of to make the servers more enjoyable for you guys.

i sure as shit dont mind spending the time i do working on the servers(or used to now that nat has taken up some of the slack for me) but to sit hear and listen to people telling me they are leaving becuase i "stole" from ma_duece made me feel that i had lost something along the way..... but i didnt lose anything. all i did was try to make N/U better for you guys.

btw just gonna post a few conversation peices so you know what type of guy he really is...

[22:23] maduecejax: I was just banned in office extended for talking dude I am pissed
[22:23] maduecejax: some noob admin
[22:23] maduecejax: I need your help
[22:30] maduecejax: <Incoming call from maduecejax. Click the voice button to answer>
[22:30] maduecejax: <You missed a call from maduecejax>
[22:31] maduecejax: I will send you $100 right now to chew his ass out
[22:31] maduecejax: and I mean rip him or her a new one
[22:41] maduecejax: <Incoming call from maduecejax. Click the voice button to answer>
[22:41] maduecejax: <You missed a call from maduecejax>
[22:54] maduecejax: Thanks man I will pay you that $100 I promised. If I dont pay you can bann me yourself> LOL
[22:54] siosios: LOL
[22:55] maduecejax: Thanx man I will login and pay tomorow long week and just want to screw off and play some office
[22:55] maduecejax: what will it cost to bann here
[22:55] siosios: dont mind sera she is a good admin and is following the rules
[22:55] maduecejax: her
[22:55] siosios: lol
[22:55] siosios: banher
[22:56] siosios: ?
[22:56] maduecejax: lol
[22:56] maduecejax: everything has a price
[22:56] siosios: HAHA
[22:56] siosios: i dont have prices... im too stuck on my own beliefs to be bought
[22:56] maduecejax: nice
[22:57] maduecejax: I will still donate that $100

i never even chewed sera's ass for that i just explained that pasties gave him more slack then others....

[12:35] maduecejax: Hey man I did not want to lose my admin privildges, and it wasnt a money issue at all. It was timing I got real and I mean real busy for a period of time.
[12:35] maduecejax: I just did not have the time.
[12:36] maduecejax: In all reality money is NOT an Issue at all.
[12:36] siosios: pasties does all the admin stuff seeing as im always working or working on the servers
[12:36] siosios: i didnt even know he set you as afk
[12:37] maduecejax: He kept harassing me for money as soon as I started playing again
[12:38] maduecejax: the second I get on he asked me for money and didnt even say hello. I was like WTF man I just got back on here after being gone for 2 mos and the first thing he asked me for was money
[12:38] maduecejax: That pissed me off
[12:38] maduecejax: I was like WTF
[12:38] maduecejax: Fine you get nothing then
[12:38] maduecejax: Money is not an issue for me at all
[12:38] maduecejax: I have made over 100G this year from my comp
[12:39] siosios: he was rpobably concerned we wernt going to make the bills for the servers and was not being socialble
[12:39] maduecejax: and I have only owned my own company for the past 9 mos.
[12:39] siosios: for that im sorry
[12:40] maduecejax: If he had concern thats all he had to say I would help you guys out anytime. Idont want to see this server go away
[12:40] maduecejax: Well how much does it take If I become part owner
[12:41] siosios: well like ive told the other admin.... money is not why we do this but making the bills so we can keep what we have is a monthly worry and i think it stresses pasties out ALOT
[12:41] maduecejax: yeah but this is pennys to the right backers
[12:41] siosios: you would have to discuss that with pasties on the owner ship part

again trying to buy his way into ownership of N/U to which the answer from pasties was no.....

[18:51] maduecejax: Ok then I am going to request that the $500.00 I sent you for advertisement be either sent back to me. Or as we had initially agreed on based on that contract I will pay you an additional $500.00 and you advertise
[19:22] siosios: well ill tell you this... your adverts will never be on the game servers or the website but you will get your money back and thats that. you will recieve your 500 via paypal in 3 weeks time and not a day sooner. and that will take care of that contract once and for all
[19:26] maduecejax: I am telling yo dont make me get dirty on this Sios. Come on Kiss and make up.
[19:26] maduecejax: That is exacttly what the contract said
[19:28] siosios: nope have requested your money back and that IS what i am going to do ...you said that i am a man of my word and that is what i am by doing as asked to return your money for an incomplete transaction that happened months ago.
[19:28] maduecejax: thats not the contract
[19:29] maduecejax: If you choose to give money back that is your choice but I have the contract, and that is not what it says
[19:29] maduecejax: I am going to take the contract

so lets sum it up.... i offered the money back and he refused... now he tells people i stole from him.... and even before this last discussion he told us that the money could be conidered a donation as the first company was not going to take off. (some of the above has time spaces becuase of things that can not be mentioned in public becuase i signed an non-disclosure agreement concerning details of the agreement and what not.

so this is all up to you regulars and new players and even NA to decide on.

just a side note its not that i dont like ma_duece i just dont stand for someone trying to bully N/U and its players becuase of me and my needs to make this place better for you guys. i dont make a dime off working on this place but i do enjoy seeing all of you have fun on what ive (meaning the servers and back end) worked so hard on to create.

enjoy our servers becuase they are there for you guys... not me!

thanks
siosios

PS: if people are wondering why ottobohn from n00bsalad is making donations every month is becuase he trusts me enough to host his entire gaming website on the N/U webserver..... just another way to help pay the bills and keep good friends on a stable platform!

FOR ALL TO READ, REGS ADMIN OWNERS PPL WHO DONT PLAY!!!

FOR ALL TO READ, REGS ADMIN OWNERS PPL WHO DONT PLAY!!!

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